And the largest one in that list is…? And the longest lasting is…? Just because you can balance a knife on its tip doesn’t mean that that’s a stable configuration, and if anarchism is not stable, why bother talking about it?
Idealistic and naive, in my view. Anarchists have never explained how we get from here to the global classless, stateless, moneyless society that both communists and anarchists wish to achieve, given the context of capitalist power and reaction — at least no explanation that makes sense to me.
I would be happy to be proven wrong though, as I truly believe that both groups want the same outcome.
Anarchy only helps those privileged enough to have the means to defend what they have with violence.
Anarchy means the sick, disabled, poor, minorities, etc are thrown to the wolves, and expected to defend themselves with less capability and resources than the majority.
Sure, you might argue family units or communities might band together and take care of each other, but they probably need some rules to make that equitable since not everyone will agree, and- oops we made government again.
I have visited wikipedia. So you mean the anarchy that is “without hierarchy or authority” but not complete chaos?
I guess I’m unclear how you manage that without it devolving into chaos though. Like corporations constantly prove that if we don’t have a law against it they’d just sell humans. I dunno how you manage to make an equitable society without some kind of rules and enforcement of said rules, when there will always be bad actors.
It’s a more complex concept than I assumed, but I struggle to conceptualize what that kind of system actually looks like.
Everybody’s hooked on communism.
But what about anarchism?
A top priority for me is the people who do stuff benefit from that stuff, instead of some removed jerks.
Along side health care, food, shelter, an environment that’s sustainable for human life.
I’m not familiar with anarchism’s solutions to these things.
Anarchism is an assured destruction of the Social Contract. People, without guidance, are more horrible.
You know anarchism doesn’t just mean ‘anything goes’, right?
[citation needed]
“No rulers” doesn’t mean “no rules.”
But it does mean nobody to enforce the rules, which means no rules.
No it doesn’t.
Yes it does.
Oh wow. How very convincing. I guess you got me.
My argument was just as high quality as yours.
Lol read a book, my god
Perhaps you should do more than just read a book and look at the real world?
No it doesn’t, name one anarchist society where this was an issue in the real world.
https://anarwiki.org/wiki/List_of_Anarchist_Societies
point to them here
And the largest one in that list is…? And the longest lasting is…? Just because you can balance a knife on its tip doesn’t mean that that’s a stable configuration, and if anarchism is not stable, why bother talking about it?
That’s a different point, we can move onto that one next if you’d like, first i’d like you to concede your previous one.
simply admit what you said has never happened in the real world, and anarchism doesn’t mean no rules, it means no rulers.
Unless you have an example where that happened on the list, where that was the reason for the collapse.
Decades of anthropological evidence say otherwise. Read Graeber’s works on the subject. They are incredibly enlightening.
Idealistic and naive, in my view. Anarchists have never explained how we get from here to the global classless, stateless, moneyless society that both communists and anarchists wish to achieve, given the context of capitalist power and reaction — at least no explanation that makes sense to me.
I would be happy to be proven wrong though, as I truly believe that both groups want the same outcome.
The two are not mutually exclusive
Anarchy only helps those privileged enough to have the means to defend what they have with violence.
Anarchy means the sick, disabled, poor, minorities, etc are thrown to the wolves, and expected to defend themselves with less capability and resources than the majority.
Sure, you might argue family units or communities might band together and take care of each other, but they probably need some rules to make that equitable since not everyone will agree, and- oops we made government again.
Sips fox news brand coolaid
That’s not how anarchism works.
But it is kind of how humans work. Have you met humans?
That’s the thing, anarchism doesn’t work.
I have visited wikipedia. So you mean the anarchy that is “without hierarchy or authority” but not complete chaos?
I guess I’m unclear how you manage that without it devolving into chaos though. Like corporations constantly prove that if we don’t have a law against it they’d just sell humans. I dunno how you manage to make an equitable society without some kind of rules and enforcement of said rules, when there will always be bad actors.
It’s a more complex concept than I assumed, but I struggle to conceptualize what that kind of system actually looks like.