Fire in the hole!

  • taiyang@lemmy.world
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    Perhaps we give it a pass in a post-scarcity world? When capitalism isn’t in the picture, it’s not taking jobs or ruining the environment or anything like that.

    Although, you kinda still have to “write” a holodeck program and it also seems to be slightly harder than prompting or they’d be doing it on the fly a bit more.

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    If we got all the other socialist progressive benefits of the Star Trek universe, including no billionaires, then I think we’d be a lot less unhappy with generative AI as presented in that world.

    How they built it, and what they plan to do with it is a pretty big part of the reason for our anger.

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      42 minutes ago

      The Star Trek universe also seems to be able to run their AI without boiling the oceans.

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        Still requires boiling oceans, but they’ve found a few uninhabited water planets that can safely be boiled without bothering anybody.

        (Also, our AI isn’t even that good. They’re not boiling the oceans. They’re boiling what previous little fresh water we have that could be used for drinking or irrigation. It would be a lot less of a problem if they just built their cooling systems to deal with salt water and used seawater instead.)

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      Yeah, if we de-meme it and really want to define it, the difference is Star Trek is a post-scarcity world, so generative AI building things doesn’t take anything away from human artists - it doesn’t affect their livelihoods because their livelihoods are guaranteed.

      As always…

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      EXACTLY

      If they didn’t invest our entire country and ecosystem into it because they thought it meant digital slaves that could replace the meat popsicles they abhor, then it might not have looked so fucking evil

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    Commander Maddox had a point. If Data was a box on wheels they would have shipped him off to be taken apart. But because he looked and sounded like a human everyone empathized with him.

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      27 minutes ago

      They seemed to empathize with the exocomps after realizing they had sentience. They were a little more complex than box on wheels, but a far cry from humanoid.

      Granted, that happened well after that landmark court case about Data’s sentience.

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    1. Holodecks are generative AI that actually works.

    2. All LLMs are Generative AI, but not all Generative AIs are LLMs.

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      Holodecks are generative AI that actually works.

      They work until the plot dictates that they don’t. Which happens a lot, actually.

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    Especially in “Schisms” (S6E5) where they build the operating table by trial and error… 100% feels like a modern ai imagegen workflow (only 3d and tangible).

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      It doesn’t. An LLM uses modeling to approximate the shape of a question and generate a novel answer within the parameters. It’s like a shortcut to actually knowing everything and providing authoritative answers.

      Sort of like the Scrabble champion who won in Spanish and French despite not knowing those languages. He simply learned patterns of words he could build with letters, but he didn’t know the meaning of any of the words.

      The holodeck ostensibly has access to all of federation knowledge and history, and when it has to generate novel information (like what would Einstein say to Newton while playing poker) then it extrapolates that informtation based on the sum total of existing information. The holodeck computer has a thorough understanding of the question, the parameters, and the answers (holograms) it creates. It isn’t abstracting the question or approximating the shape of the answer.