• Loce@lemmy.world
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    It’s not like USA has a free public healthcare to worry about, they need to spend our money on something, might as well be weapons… right?

    Remember fellow Americans, in midterm you better vote for Trump, let’s kill more people, more kids, let’s send more weapons to Middle East, what’s the worst that can happen? 10$ for barrel? Daddy says its a small price to pay…

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      We’ve gotta stop doing this chatter.

      Yes, we know establishment dems are also pro israel.

      Are you actively trying to help tank dem chances in the mid terms? Do you think repubs will be better?

      I don’t get the desired effect of this comment other than to make people depressed and sad and not bother voting for the least bad option which will have the effect of allowing the more bad option to win. I get the “burn it down” team, but there are lots of us who aren’t there and think that’s going to be miserable for ages.

      But we have hope. There’s been a surge of SocDems winning and they are making waves, getting positive press, and the republicans have shat the bed so bad that their base is noticing.

      You can also help instead of harm by joining your local democratic organization, helping find better candidates to vote for and supporting them, and voting in the primaries. If you’re not doing all of that, then please be quiet.

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        Are you actively trying to help tank dem chances in the mid terms?

        “guys, I know they support the genocide, but my team might lose if you don’t stop talking about it!”

        Your chance to fix this was in 2016. Last one was in 2020.

        At this point, you’re locked in.

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        Well Republicans may be actively killing Americans, cutting all research funding and solar and infrastructure, ruining trade relations, starting and continuing several wars, doing exactly as much as the dems do on Israel, just with even more support towards it, making bills to say trans people are mentally ill, pushing religion in schools, cutting education, and about 1000 other literally evil things.

        BUT! dems support Israel instead of Russia. Who cares about the Iran war I guess. They also only passed 7 huge bills while having a tiny majority. Both sides.

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        I’ll just go ahead and admit it. Let’s lay it all out. Straight up: I won’t be voting for Biden this election and I hope no else does either.

        But yeah I really wish he wasn’t running for president again…in a midterm election. Cause if he wasn’t then I’d say we could at least vent honestly a little about the heinous things he was involved in with out being brow beat about it. Bad mouthing the party in general? Yeah probably not the best thing to be doing now. But Biden? Nah fuck him.

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    No Medicare or Medicaid, no snap, no climate protection, gas crisis, housing crisis But but… BUT!!! MONEY FOR EXPLODY SHIT AND A MASS BRIBE!!!

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      Why do you think non-voters would vote for Trump alternatives? Just as likely to vote for Trump.

      what’s the vitriol for?

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    I can’t imagine how it must feel to be a Palestinian-American refugee in the US.

    They’re literally funding the genocide of their own family by paying taxes (as are the rest of US)

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    You pay for their bombs. The money they save allows them to have socialized healthcare.

    You bust your ass to keep your family with healthcare … and your government helps another country provide THEIR citizens healthcare.

    Let that shit sink in.

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      The joke is that the US doesn’t help other countries. It does things to look good but genuinely helping a country build up, won’t happen, not unless there’s a military motive or a motive to still have proxy control and liquidating all those those who don’t commit.

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      Yep. This is the argument to make to Republicans. We pay for socialized healthcare for Israel. Ask them to explain why we can justify that while also making cuts to other international healthcare initiatives and denying healthcare to Americans.

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        You also pay a crapton of taxes for heathcare in your own country. More than a lot of countries with socialised healthcare, in fact. You just then have to also pay even more for health insurance so you can then need to pay out of pocket for the lifesaving healthcare you’ve already paid twice for.

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    Israel was founded by USA and UK after WW2 for a reason.

    Since founding, the USA has always funded their military. Not only did you buy the bombs, tanks, and so on, your parents did too, and your grandparents, and your great grandparents (if you are American, anyway). There’s a reason that every President I know of has flown out to Israel and visited the Prayer Wall and worn the little hat. It’s considered vital to our strategic interests in the area (that’s not my assessment).

    … and not only Israel! If memory serves, Saudi Arabia and Egypt have also received a lot of military aid.

    … and money! So much money is funneled to ME, Jordan, Lebanon, Libya, Iraq, and more.

    There are few things in life that you can count on, and that’s death, taxes, and US military aid to Israel.

    This is one thing that bOtH pArTiEs agree on, there’s no “anti-Israel” voting option.

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    So Israel’s genocidal rampage is more important than winning in Iran, and all the US military over there are sacrificing their lives for no (useful) reason. I don’t get why the right-wingers aren’t more incensed over this crap.

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      Food stamps for the needy? Bad!

      Bomb stamps for a genocidal regime? Good?

      If welfare queens exist, then Israel is the ultimate welfare queen. Just sucking up money and never becoming a productive member of the world.

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        I’d argue they’re welfare fraudsters rather than welfare queens. They’ve got tons of money, most of the tech industry is connected to Israeli engineering. They’re just also constantly getting even more money so they don’t need to spend as much of their own money. Always best to waste someone else’s money.

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          I’d argue they’re welfare fraudsters rather than welfare queens.

          “Welfare fraudster” is exactly what “welfare queen” means, and is why the term is so offensive.

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      It’s time for the Final Solution. Then Trump and Kushner can finally develop the Jewish Dubai out of the ruins. That’s what he’s getting in exchange for full collaboration.

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      I’m sending my health care! Hopefully I can die quickly and quietly to push that line just a bit higher for corporate overlords. Hail corporate!