Whenever i talk to people about privacy, specifically my friends when i tell them why i switched to Signal and stopped using WhatsApp, i’m always met with people saying that i’m just making no sense and “why would you care so much if you have nothing to hide? I don’t care that meta sees that stuff” and some people are just so stubborn to understand that they might even settle on the “what would a billion dollar company want from me specifically?”. It makes me mad how people refuse to even consider alternatives and open their mind a bit. What do you think?
When people say this they’re completely missing the point. First, when someone says “I have nothing to hide”, they are assuming that whoever is watching or monitoring or surveiling them share the same values they do. You decide to do something and you don’t care who knows it because you think “there’s nothing wrong with this”. What if who is watching you decides "there is something wrong with that? The second point is that, even if you have just the slightest inkling that someone might know what you’re thinking or doing, you think and act differently. It’s psychology.
Not caring about privacy because you have nothing to hide is the same thing like opposing freedom of speech because you have nothing to say.
“Okay, unlock your phone and hand it over so I can go through it.”
That’s where they all get cold feet. All of them.
I did this once to someone and they were like “ok sure here you go…” I wanted to then check their gallery just to make a point, but I ended up not doing it because it made me so uncomfortable. Guess I won’t be fit as a totalitarian regime leader 😆. I just don’t understand how some people care THAT little for their own privacy.
Next time just open their banking app and start transfering money to your account, let’s see how long that lasts.
You might just be in a bubble of privacy-minded people. I know many people who would hand over their phone unlocked at the drop of a hat. Their digital lives just don’t mean anything to them. But more likely, they don’t appreciate the damage someone can do with that access.
Next time just open their banking app and start transfering money to your account, let’s see how long that lasts.
Did you read the last sentence?
So your getting their password or face or fingerprint? Most banking apps have some sort or authentication.
Ask to put a camera in their bathroom
They need to consider the difference between having something to hide and having something to protect. Privacy is something to protect, regardless of what it might be in aid of.
Arguing that you don’t care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different from saying you don’t care about free speech because you have nothing to say. - Edward Snowden
came here to say this and i’m glad lemmy is keeping this alive.
Dynamic pricing.
Your grocery store will know enough about you to charge the maximum amount you’re willing to pay and not a penny less.
This is a good argument.
You will see me on the news when I set the speed record for breaking every single electronic price tag in an entire grocery store.
“Unlock your phone and hand it to me”
“Yeah, that’s what I thought”
Ask to see their butthole
I know people that would actually do that, it’s too risky.
Yeah, way too many people.
But honestly, usually also those that I would trust with my life.
*Raises hand*
I saw someone on YouTube respond with “give me your phone and let me go into the other room for an hour”
You have nothing to hide from the people currently in power
The people who used to say “I have nothing to hide” the loudest to me changed their tone real quick once Flock cameras started being used for ICE pickups, arresting people for traveling to other states for abortions, etc
This is the most compelling argument. I find it gross that companies build a profile of me, but as long as that doesn’t change my life, it’s an annoying cost of using free services.
However, when the state, the only organization that can legally use violence, has access to that data, it’s a different story. Then it moves from gross to dangerous.
You have nothing to hide until what was once acceptable rapidly changes.
That’s the angle I take. Its fine now, sure. What about when Nazis end up in charge again?
And then all the sudden you’re a conspiracy nut to be disregarded, all the while they’re saying it and doing it out loud and in broad daylight.
Ask them to unlock their phone and hand it to you. Let you go through whatever you want.
Then why do you close the door when you take a shit?
But what are they hiding there?
what’s accepted now, can and will be used against you…
It’s already happening to me. I’m transgender. It’s already happening to me, my political views are being classified as extreme. I’m on lists. I’m surveiled.
It might be happening to you too.
