• SabinStargem@lemmy.today
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    3 hours ago

    Good. Israel’s people won’t ever demand reforms, if they don’t suffer for the evils they have supported.

    • jj4211@lemmy.world
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      2 hours ago

      How often is it that people demand reforms versus become galvanized in support of ‘their team’?

      ‘Rally behind the flag’ is the usual popular reaction, where any calls for reform that might have happened become completely unacceptable in popular culture.

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        2 hours ago

        Considering what was already happening to Gaza and Palestine, plus the egging on of the USA into war against Iran, I think Israel was already fully galvanized to make war. Israel up to this point has suffered no consequences for their actions, so there wasn’t real pressure to change things. Plus, they were taking territory from others and were enriching their populations - which is pretty popularizing by default.

        Iran, on the other hand, wasn’t gaining new territories to grease the palms of their citizens. That gave much stronger incentives for their population to be opposed to their leadership, up until they got bombed by “freedom”.

        Different nations, different circumstances.

  • jefferyjefferson@lemmy.org
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    4 hours ago

    I wish it were more.

    Everyone living in Israel has the means to get out and they need to do it. Israel is one of the most expensive places to live; there is no excuse.

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      You may call me old-fashioned, but I’d rather not have civilians suffer. Not all of them support the actions of Israel, many were born there, some are tied to their older relatives and simply friends, partners etc. It’s also not easy to uproot your entire living, let alone rapidly fled amidst the war.

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          A lot, indeed. But as we can’t separate them from the rest, we can’t endorse the bombings.

          If we could put those pedaling the war into one place, I’d say go ahead and nuke 'em all.

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        It’s also not easy to uproot your entire living, let alone rapidly fled amidst the war.

        Agreed. I don’t have sympathy for the Israeli citizens because they caused others to experience this in order to steal the land.

        It’s a LOT easier for the Israelis to leave than it is for the people whose land they steal.

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          One thing many people have surprisingly low comprehension of is that people ≠ government.

          Regular Israeli civilians did not partake in the war, did not cause the apartheid, and did not steal the land. They were born there, or went there on a promise of entering a friendly Jewish community - not of murdering people.

          When the latest Hamas strike happened, this has played into the hands of Israeli government and military command. They got yet another excuse to bomb the hell out of Palestine. Some civilians were scared enough to support the “retaliation”, many others vehemently opposed and denounced it.

          In any case, deporting all Israelis is clearly not a solution now. Israel is their home. Imagine that your birthplace originally belonged to another country, and they wanted to take it back, sending you out wherever. Would it be reasonable to oblige, to leave your home and your entire life behind, forever?

          This is catastrophic when it happens to Palestinians, and not much better should it happen to Israelis.

  • GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca
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    7 hours ago

    The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Gaza, Beiruit, Tehran, and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind.

  • KulunkelBoom@lemmus.org
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    9 hours ago

    What a shock it must be to be asleep in your house and have some foreign country bomb the fuck out of non-military targets.

    What a shame. Couldn’t happen to a nicer people I suppose.

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    15 hours ago

    Israel isn’t very used to adults that can shoot back at them, are they?

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    15 hours ago

    Well I hope Israel gets the same great humanitarian treatment, which they have showned towards others.

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    22 hours ago

    SHOCKED! They are SHOCKED I tell you!

    Can we get “journalists” a new thesaurus please?

  • Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 day ago

    Boy, it sure does suck when assholes miles away blow your shit up, huh? Maybe there’s a lesson to be learned here.

  • Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca
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    “The Israeli military ordered an investigation into what went wrong”

    You dumbfucks attacked a people that were willing/able to hit back, that’s what went wrong you absolute blithering assholes!

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    Is the Israeli public “shocked” that missile defenses are not working? I thought that this has been the widely known since the “12 Day War” last year?