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  • PixxlMan@lemmy.worldtoLemmy Shitpost@lemmy.worldPhilosophy meme
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    2 years ago

    Objective != Better/stronger/more true

    Just because something is clearly (to any sane human) true doesn’t mean it’s objective. It’s can still be subjective.

    An objective moral truth is basically an oxymoron

    You can objectively say that humans think certain things are morally bankrupt but you cannot say that certain things are objectively morally bankrupt without specifying according to whom. Morals don’t just float around space. Humans have them because of evolution and society.

    I think much confusion here is around the word objective. We seem to be defining it differently. The way I define it, and I think the most idiomatic way to define it, there cannot, by definition, be such a thing as an objective moral truth

    Edit: clarification


  • You can quantity maths. It’s the prime example of something objective and quantifiable. No I’m clearly not saying that.

    What I mean with “exists only in our minds” is that it isn’t some externally measurable thing. There is no moralometer which can measure the morality of an action. It only exists to us, humans. That makes it subjective.

    If you’re wondering about the meaning of the previous comment it is to clarify that saying there are no objective moral truths doesn’t mean I am dismissing morality. It just means that objectivity isn’t applicable to it.



  • Emphasised “continue” or “default” buttons have been around for a long time. In a software installer, nonstandard options are often less emphasised than the standard ones. For instance when choosing an installation location it makes sense for the default option, which is fine for most users, to be emphasized. If the continue and change location buttons were equally prominent the user might believe that a choice must be made here or that you are expected to choose a location. The experience of installing is more streamlined, less confusing for the less technically proficient, and requires less cognitive load when emphasis is used well.

    As I said in an earlier comment, something being a dark pattern is entirely a matter of context. If used to encourage the user to shell out for gems in a mobile game, it’s a dark pattern. If used to make user experience better, it’s just good UX.


  • I agree with you largely. It isn’t always a dark pattern. It is a dark pattern if it’s used shadily or maliciously, for example to trick you into downloading adware in an installer. It’s not a dark pattern, but rather good UX design if it’s used in a context to indicate a likely default choice, for instance:

    We’ve detected your system is set to Dutch. Is Dutch your preferred language?

    [No, let me change] [Looks good]

    Maybe someone else has other examples of good uses. It’s not appropriate everywhere.


  • PixxlMan@lemmy.worldtoLemmy Shitpost@lemmy.worldPhilosophy meme
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    2 years ago

    Saying that something isn’t objectively quantifiable (like morality)

    isn’t a value judgement on it

    Subjectively the morality of your example is abhorrent, but objectively you cannot, cannot , cannot! quantity it! Morality only exists in our minds! That doesn’t make it any less meaningful, but it makes it

    not

    objective