Our history is them voting one way and people like Mitch McConnell bring us right here while they reelect them.
History shows they are a bunch of mornic idiots and if they happen to do the right thing that’d be a nice surprise but history doesn’t paint them in a good light no matter what you their grandfathers did while raising father that did the opposite…
Who’s kicking them? It’s an internet comment stating how shitty they have been and how little trust they deserve.
Let someone else suck their dick cause they may pay Bernie lip service… vs decades of voting data and the harm their very political participation has caused? You’d have to be stupid to start fawning over them now. Let them prove it then I’ll say cool. They’ve actively proved otherwise throughout my lifetime so this article ain’t moving the needle.
How far back are you looking? Just at Florida, which was turned red by a sea of geriatrics that doubled the state’s population over the past 30 years? Or further than that where the south was governed by Dixiecrats who just turned Republican when the Democratic party stopped being cool with Jim Crow?
Totally true, they have shown a historical trend AWAY from awareness… so why should I trust them to be aware now? Even the most basic coal worker has not understood these issues for DECADES FOR FUCKS SAKE. All while voting in republicans to take it worse.
If they want to be different they needed to vote differently BEFORE now. Until then why not assume they will vote the same?
I live in a red state. My jobs are me the rare left in the entire crowd. I have to learn how to talk, chat, joke with these people. And last Trump administration I kept talking with them. Things I learned. Since I wasn’t willing to immediately extol the good of Trump, I must be against him (not even talking politics, just me keeping my mouth shut.) That they’re against many of the things on helping people.
But hell, years of working with one crew, I was getting them over, realizing that the wealthy were fucking us over, that the insurance that was fucking everyone over was why we needed better. That many of the “sullied” republicans were against it. Hell I think one thing that got them listening was they said something good about Biden, I couldn’t keep my mouth shut and made a snark about Trump and when I was told “I said something good about your guy” I outright tore into them to never say that Biden was “my guy”, I may look at lesser of evils but it wasn’t some fucking football game.
But I saw chances… I saw hope that maybe… maybe they could learn. But the second Trump started running again, it was the same parroted stuff, even from a soybean ventures guy who was watching to see if his prices would ever go back up because he was losing money on it.
So no… I don’t trust them. I think there are some who need to be out there to welcome the people when they’re willing to join sides, yes… but there also needs to be those to remind that these are not friends, and they are very likely to stab us in the back unless they actually show that they’re willing to put the work in to make change.
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Our history is them voting one way and people like Mitch McConnell bring us right here while they reelect them.
History shows they are a bunch of mornic idiots and if they happen to do the right thing that’d be a nice surprise but history doesn’t paint them in a good light no matter what you their grandfathers did while raising father that did the opposite…
And you want to kick them when they’re finally joining your side? How fucking stupid are you?
Who’s kicking them? It’s an internet comment stating how shitty they have been and how little trust they deserve.
Let someone else suck their dick cause they may pay Bernie lip service… vs decades of voting data and the harm their very political participation has caused? You’d have to be stupid to start fawning over them now. Let them prove it then I’ll say cool. They’ve actively proved otherwise throughout my lifetime so this article ain’t moving the needle.
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How far back are you looking? Just at Florida, which was turned red by a sea of geriatrics that doubled the state’s population over the past 30 years? Or further than that where the south was governed by Dixiecrats who just turned Republican when the Democratic party stopped being cool with Jim Crow?
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How many people arguing with you do you think know about Blair Mountain?
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Oh yea I’m sure they will, just like after Bush crashed the economy… just like after Trump’s first term… just like when my magic fairy?
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Totally true, they have shown a historical trend AWAY from awareness… so why should I trust them to be aware now? Even the most basic coal worker has not understood these issues for DECADES FOR FUCKS SAKE. All while voting in republicans to take it worse.
If they want to be different they needed to vote differently BEFORE now. Until then why not assume they will vote the same?
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Where were your kin at the Battle of Blair Mountain? Why’d you let California vote for Reagan? See how unhelpful these criticisms are.
I’m not criticizing the battle of whatever I’m criticizing every vote after the fact.
Why Cali elected Reagan is nothing when you look at California SINCE THEN.
Tell me about Appalachia or Kentucky since then…
I’ll be cantankerous… yes.
I live in a red state. My jobs are me the rare left in the entire crowd. I have to learn how to talk, chat, joke with these people. And last Trump administration I kept talking with them. Things I learned. Since I wasn’t willing to immediately extol the good of Trump, I must be against him (not even talking politics, just me keeping my mouth shut.) That they’re against many of the things on helping people.
But hell, years of working with one crew, I was getting them over, realizing that the wealthy were fucking us over, that the insurance that was fucking everyone over was why we needed better. That many of the “sullied” republicans were against it. Hell I think one thing that got them listening was they said something good about Biden, I couldn’t keep my mouth shut and made a snark about Trump and when I was told “I said something good about your guy” I outright tore into them to never say that Biden was “my guy”, I may look at lesser of evils but it wasn’t some fucking football game.
But I saw chances… I saw hope that maybe… maybe they could learn. But the second Trump started running again, it was the same parroted stuff, even from a soybean ventures guy who was watching to see if his prices would ever go back up because he was losing money on it.
So no… I don’t trust them. I think there are some who need to be out there to welcome the people when they’re willing to join sides, yes… but there also needs to be those to remind that these are not friends, and they are very likely to stab us in the back unless they actually show that they’re willing to put the work in to make change.
The thing with those types is that they hate black people and LGBT folk much more than they believe in anything the Bern is saying
I think the point is that voting will no longer help them.
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If you know history, then you would know we’re past the point of no return.
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I concede. I agree and hope we’re right.
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Thebes liberated the Greek city states from their Spartan conquerers.
Thebes was in turn conquered by Phillip II of Macedonia, after he was taught by the general that led Thebes to that victory.
Thebes was destroyed by Alexander, Phillip’s son, after they rebelled against his rule.
When offered the choice to surrender and spare their city, they refused and fought to the death for their liberty.
Does the empire of Alexander still stand? Did democracy die forever with Phillip’s conquests?
Nothing lasts forever. And fascism has rarely lasted long historically.
Unfortunately, while voting is bloodless, ousting fascism, after idiots vote it in, takes many lives.
We’ll see. It’s been ousted bloodlessly before but it’s not easy.
I would love to read about any examples you provide!
I’m not an expert but one example is the downfall of Pinochet. I’m sure there are others too.
At least Hitler was smart. Trump is a bumbling idiot.
Hitler was also a bumbling idiot. He just had stimulants