Yeah but seems that no one gives a fuck. US and China are still the greatest polluters and don’t seem to care, Europe besides still seeming to want to do something, is not ready to press this both especially now with the Ukraine war so, yeah, we are pretty fucked up.
Germany is building coal plants, pretty much the rest of Europe is transitioning away from fossil fuels at a breakneck pace.
(And to be fair, Germany’s also investing heavily in clean energy and has made huge progress on that front. They just made the incredibly stupid decision to shut down their remaining nuclear plants before they had enough clean energy sources to make up for the power difference, which is why they’re temporarily using coal as a stopgap.)
Just checked: Apparently the last one got finished 2020, an 1GW block in Datteln.
The newest list I could find is from the BUND, 2016, the Datteln one is the only one that got built. If there were more projects the BUND would definitely have kept updating that list, they’re tree-huggers, of course they would.
And frankly speaking a certain number of new plants were sensible even with the end of the technology already being a decided thing: Old ones are way less efficient than new ones so it’s better to have the last ones to shut down be highly efficient ones, producing more energy for the CO2 they emit.
Exactly - and Datteln 4 was started in 2007. It was even projected to have the first commercial Carbon Capture System…selling it to Canada though, seemed the wiser idea to some. The canadians sold the license to use the technology to Australia and made a fortune.
My bad, I mixed it up with them increasing coal consumption / expanding existing coal mines. The overall point stands though that even as stupid as shutting down all the nuclear plants was, Germany’s still on a good path long-term when it comes to fighting climate change-- and the rest of Europe is making impressive progress, too.
Germany “making progress in investing in clean energy” is the understatement of the milennium. Without the cash injection brought about by the German feed-in tariffs wind and solar still would be completely uncompetitive instead of (in many circumstances) cheaper than fossil and nuclear.
And, then, well, we had 16 years of a conservative government trying their darnest to fuck up the transition.
Forget it again, because it’s utter BS. Germany hasn’t built a new coal plant since 2007. Datteln 4 was also planned to have a CCS (Carbon Capture System) - there where however massive protests against CCS in 2009 and in 2011 there was a new law…but it was too late and the CCS technology was bought by Canada. Austria outlawed CO2 Storage completely.
that doesn’t seem right at all? I mean progress is slow because things in Europe and the US are much less centralized. But just gaving a look and compare between Europe and the US, and other countries should make you understand that things are just better. Granted not good enough but nothing is gonna happen instantly. China is another thing.
Yeah but seems that no one gives a fuck. US and China are still the greatest polluters and don’t seem to care, Europe besides still seeming to want to do something, is not ready to press this both especially now with the Ukraine war so, yeah, we are pretty fucked up.
Europe is building coal plants rn
Germany is building coal plants, pretty much the rest of Europe is transitioning away from fossil fuels at a breakneck pace.
(And to be fair, Germany’s also investing heavily in clean energy and has made huge progress on that front. They just made the incredibly stupid decision to shut down their remaining nuclear plants before they had enough clean energy sources to make up for the power difference, which is why they’re temporarily using coal as a stopgap.)
Germany is not building new coal plants, ffs. Stop this bullshit and inform yourself before that.
Just checked: Apparently the last one got finished 2020, an 1GW block in Datteln.
The newest list I could find is from the BUND, 2016, the Datteln one is the only one that got built. If there were more projects the BUND would definitely have kept updating that list, they’re tree-huggers, of course they would.
And frankly speaking a certain number of new plants were sensible even with the end of the technology already being a decided thing: Old ones are way less efficient than new ones so it’s better to have the last ones to shut down be highly efficient ones, producing more energy for the CO2 they emit.
Exactly - and Datteln 4 was started in 2007. It was even projected to have the first commercial Carbon Capture System…selling it to Canada though, seemed the wiser idea to some. The canadians sold the license to use the technology to Australia and made a fortune.
My bad, I mixed it up with them increasing coal consumption / expanding existing coal mines. The overall point stands though that even as stupid as shutting down all the nuclear plants was, Germany’s still on a good path long-term when it comes to fighting climate change-- and the rest of Europe is making impressive progress, too.
Germany “making progress in investing in clean energy” is the understatement of the milennium. Without the cash injection brought about by the German feed-in tariffs wind and solar still would be completely uncompetitive instead of (in many circumstances) cheaper than fossil and nuclear.
And, then, well, we had 16 years of a conservative government trying their darnest to fuck up the transition.
I just forgot this, this is just the top of the cake
Forget it again, because it’s utter BS. Germany hasn’t built a new coal plant since 2007. Datteln 4 was also planned to have a CCS (Carbon Capture System) - there where however massive protests against CCS in 2009 and in 2011 there was a new law…but it was too late and the CCS technology was bought by Canada. Austria outlawed CO2 Storage completely.
that doesn’t seem right at all? I mean progress is slow because things in Europe and the US are much less centralized. But just gaving a look and compare between Europe and the US, and other countries should make you understand that things are just better. Granted not good enough but nothing is gonna happen instantly. China is another thing.