Fox cable hosts are doing the job of the chair of the White House Council of Economic Advisers, Jared Bernstein, by admitting that the economy under President Biden is strong. Bernstein joins MSNBC’s Ali Velshi to discuss the latest “expectation-busting” jobs report.
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Answer my question. Have you ever studied economics in any fashion?
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Great. So do you understand why a moderate level of inflation is a good thing for quality of life? “line go up” in a broad economic sense.
And do you understand how profit motives spur investment which generates improvements which leads to better quality of life? “Line go up” for individual companies.
And this is a little more advanced, but also a little easier to see in the real world: do you understand why every planned economy has failed to raise quality of life as well as capitalist economies?
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The whole point of modern economic theory is that it is GOOD due to the circular nature. Higher prices higher wages higher profit motive higher standard of living. It’s a beneficial cycle.
Not really. There’s not a finite supply of money. Profits that are driven by efficiency improvements do actually come from “nowhere”.
That’s fair, and it’s the job of regulation and government policy to harness the short term greed into long term societal objectives. We haven’t been doing a great job of that. Short term greed by itself does do a lot of good, but it also drives harm in some areas (eg the environment) and ignores other areas (eg finding a cure for a rare disease). Ideally, the government should have a hand tweaking incentives in some areas (eg carbon tax) and taking direct action in others (eg funding medical research).
True, but policymakers have other levers they can pull which help the working class, to offset the above. Note I said “can pull” not necessarily “do pull” - Republicans are absolutely opposed to doing this.
Again, we absolutely have these mechanisms, but Republicans block them. The Fed is not beholden to Republicans (or Democrats) so they can unilaterally raise interest rates. But the tools to offset the harm done to working class people are subject to every roadblock Republicans can throw in the way of them.
You’re conflating “a moderate level of inflation” (2%) with “way too much inflation” (20%). No one is saying that 20% inflation is a good thing. If repair costs jump up 2%, that’s fine.
I’ll file them away with farriers and thatchers. Technological improvement is an objectively good thing.
And again, we could have better skills retraining programs, but…Republicans.
Neither of those are planned economies. They’re government taking a direct role in some areas, which is good and wholly supported by the capitalist model. Some things are best served by monopoly or direct government oversight. The majority are not.
I wholeheartedly agree, and that’s very different than a planned economy.
100% agree with all of this.
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No worries, I had a similar misunderstanding. When you said “planned economy” I assumed you were a Soviet stan advocating for a “command economy” a la the teenager’s ideal of “if I was in charge…”. I didn’t think you meant injecting government planning into some aspects of a well-regulated capitalist/socialist framework.
Sounds like we’re mostly on the same page!
In summary, I think all the good you want to see can be accomplished by a capitalist economy with strong socialist oversight (in the sense of Scandinavian socialism). There’s no need for a centrally planned economy or an attempt to remove all inflation.
DOES IT FUCKING MATTER IF THEY CANT AFFORD FOOD AND RENT?!
Yes. Because if they decide to make things worse out of ignorance, then other people can’t afford food and rent.