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  • Please, explain to me how the “No true Scotsman” fallacy doesn’t apply to the argument.

    Yeah, sure, let’s do that. Throwing out some random fallacy names without understanding what the fallacy actually is is easy. Actually understanding what the referenced fallacy actually means is more difficult.

    So let’s go to the Wikipedia definition:

    The “no true Scotsman” fallacy is committed when the arguer satisfies the following conditions:[3][4][6]

    • not publicly retreating from the initial, falsified a posteriori assertion
    • offering a modified assertion that definitionally excludes a targeted unwanted counterexample
    • using rhetoric to signal the modification

    So u/andros_rex said:

    I wish Christians in red states were Christians.

    That was their initial assertion, which asserted that those who call themselves “Christians” in red states don’t follow the definition of what Christians are.

    To which you answered:

    They are whether you like that or not.

    So we have an initial assertion, which you didn’t falsify, you just claimed that it was false.

    To which u/ABetterTomorrow (note, a different user) answered

    ^understanding falls short.

    Which means, the original commenter didn’t change anything about the original assertion, and neither did u/ABetterTomorrow.

    Since no modification happened, points 2 and 3 or the definition of the “no true Scotsman” fallacy don’t apply either.

    The whole situation really has nothing to do with the “no true Scotsman” fallacy, except of sub-groups within a larger group being part of an argument.

    Which makes your argument that this is a “no true Scotsman” fallacy in fact a strawman argument, which itself is a fallacy.

    Do you now understand what the “no true Scotsman” fallacy is and why you should actually try to understand what terms mean before using them?

    Edit: What’s also important to know is why is the “no true Scotsman” fallacy a fallacy? It’s because the argument becomes a tautology, something that’s always true. “No true Scotsman will do X” means “A Scotsman who does X is no true Scotsman, thus no true Scotsman does X”. That’s always true, so it doesn’t mean anything. It takes the original claim “No true Scotsman will do X” and transforms it into a meaningless argument. That’s the fallacious part.

    What u/andros_rex actually said meant was “If you don’t follow Christ’s teachings, you shouldn’t call yourself a Christian”. It’s a subtile difference, but an important one. The “no true Scotsman” fallacy argues against doing X by saying that no true Scotsman would be doing X. But what u/andros_rex argues for is that these supposed Christians don’t live up to the standards of Christ/being a Christian. It’s basically the opposite reasoning.









  • Terrible idea for a few reasons.

    • The example in the OP does not need anything but the country. GPS coordinates are less efficient than ISO codes
    • GPS coordinates don’t map 1:1 to countries or even street addresses. There are infinite different coordinates for each address, and it’s very non-trivial to match one to another. Comparing whether two records with country codes are in the same country is trivial. Doing the same with two GPS coordinates is very difficult.
    • GPS coordinates might be more exact than accurate. This is a surprisingly common issue: you start out only needing a country, so you put some arvitrary GPS position (e.g. the center of the country) into the GPS coordinates. Later a new requirement arises that means you now need street addresses. Now all old entries point so some random house in the middle of the country, and there’s no easy way to differentiate these false locations from real ones.

    I guess you meant that as a joke, but people are really doing this and it leads to actual problems.

    I saw a news report a while ago about something like that being done in a database for people with outstanding debt. If the address of the debtor wasn’t known, they just put “US” in the form, and the program automatically entered the centre of the US as the coordinates.

    Sucks for the family that lives there because they constantly get threatening mail and even house visits from angry lenders who want their money back. People even vandalized their house and car because they believed that their debtors lived in that house.




  • Totally correct.

    XYZprinting didn’t fail because of the DRM per se. They failed because they had an expensive priter with average quality, average learning curve, average reliability, and on top of that, they had stupid, expensive DRM cartridges that would frequently tangle and that you couldn’t untangle without breaking the cartridge. And they didn’t even have a decent selection of filaments and colors.

    They were a below average product to begin with, and being the first company to slap DRM on the filament was just the nail in the coffin.

    If it had been one of the big players of the time (Ender, Prusa, …) who slowly snuck in DRM, it would have been much more likely to succeed.







  • The Nigerian understanding of religion is fascinating. They just take what they need from any place they want. In the western world most people stick with the faith they were born in, or maybe switch once or twice in their lifetime. In Nigeria it’s common to switch very frequently, always taking the parts they like best and leaving behind the rest.

    It’s a very open and interesting way to look at things, not so much tied to their own personal identity (“I am protestant, so I must hate catholics” as it used to be common in the west), but instead they build their own faith from all the best sources they can find.