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And I’m disagreeing that pedophiles can’t help their feelings. This dialogue only occurs because of the recent conflation between sexuality and pedophilia. I’ve always been of the opinion that they need to see a professional, and that needs to be a non-negotiable. I reject any conversation on their feelings being a choice because as evidenced in this thread, people conflate ideas that apply to sexuality to pedophiles. I just responded to someone who accused me of arguing for conversion therapy. It’s pedophilia, it needs to stay stigmatised because of how huge the consequences are if they act on it.

It is important to mind the language we use and how it affects things and people. Softening language around pedophilia does not serve a better society. I agree that society is harsh on pedophiles. It is rightfully so, because the consequence of acting on these thoughts is massive for the other. Harshness is necessary because these thoughts should be treated as vile, repulsive, and something to get rid of. It is tricky to approach seeking help with something perceived as repulsive, but pedophiles can take solace that counsellors are confidential, trained professionals who will refer them to someone else if they cannot handle the subject.

If there is a conscious being that cannot consent, object, or otherwise appropriately respond to one’s attraction, then that attraction should not be held onto. Ways should be explored to move past that attraction, whether they be through counselling or self reflection.

“MAP” is not a part of queer communities or cultures, stop trying to make that the case. First off we need to stop softening the language around them and call them pedophiles, because that’s what they are, whether they act upon it or not. They should seek therapy because sexual attraction to children is not an acceptable part of society.

Bizarre equivalencies here. Firstly, regardless of my personal beliefs on large age gaps, those are consenting adults. You’re equating them to children. Children are not consenting adults, it is a problem if you feel sexual attraction to them. Same thing with animals. They cannot consent. You have some really messed up ideals if you’re equating psychiatry and therapy, especially modern-day versions of them, to conversion therapy forced onto gay people. This is exactly why I called it excusatory MAP bullshit because you go right down this slippery slope. Being sexually attracted to children is not a sexuality.

Yeah, but prefaced it by saying you can’t help who or what you’re attracted to. Right out of the MAP playbook. The thoughts and attraction in itself is a problem and requires counselling because “children” are not a sexuality. You can and should help what you’re attracted to when that what is a child! If you’re having suicidal thoughts, you should see a counsellor. If you’re having thoughts about harming others, you should see a counsellor. If you’re having thoughts about diddling kids, you. should. see. a. counsellor.

“MAP” type excusatory bullshit, fuck off. Pedophilia is not a sexuality because “child” is not a sex or gender expression.

It’s not the only step, it’s just that half the country has lost its mind and that half seems to have itchy trigger fingers. Meanwhile a huge part lives paycheck to paycheck where they’re not able to just leave and strike to starve themselves and their dependents. Capitalism has the country by the balls.

London is an outlier quoted as the rule. London attracted rich people from all over the world with tax cuts and benefits. The leeches leeched and predictably contributed nothing. Since this is unsustainable, they raised taxes again. Wealth flight occured because the people that left had only moved there for the tax savings. London was not their home, they never tried to make it their home.

Thank you for clarifying, it seemed crazy high. I know the stereotypes but still.

That is a wild statistic! Is that study just in Italy or?

Now I’m no Honda fangirl. The 1.5L is their least reliable engine in a while and they don’t offer a manual Civic below the Si, which is very underpowered and underspecced for its price. They also have removed Civic features to put them in the Integra instead of just making the Integra better. I also think the Integra is overpriced and Acura doesn’t make much else that appeals to me. The new Accord is a borefest and they killed the Accord manual by saying there’s no consumer demand when they decide how many get produced and they sold every one that was produced. The Honda E I agree should’ve been way cheaper and simpler.

After all of that still, to say Honda hasn’t made a good car in 20 years is completely bizarre and incorrect. I would so much rather be in a Civic or CR-V today than a Corolla or RAV4. Personally, I avoided both and got a VW GLI but that’s besides the point.

Forgive my french but that’s a fucking insane way to look at things - which might be why I was having trouble with it. There is an active genocide being committed, I don’t care if the people getting killed are transphobic.

The part that conservatives don’t seem to understand is that empathy goes all ways. People who haven’t done anything wrong are being killed because they’re brown and the white world is placing more important on the Jewish nation that displaced them to begin with. We’re discussing about trans people having a problem with this. Everyone should have a problem with this! Would a gay person in 1943 not have a problem with the Holocaust because some Jews might be homophobic? What’s the point being made?

Also, bizarre to assume you will be stoned to death for being trans in Gaza with nothing to back that up. Your bigotry is showing.

I thought I understood what your point was and was ready to call you an idiot for it, and then I read this and I no longer understand what your point was. What exactly is wrong with queer people supporting Palestine in the active genocide being committed? What does that have to do with prosecution?

But we’re repeatedly seeing most geriatric politicians not have basic empathy, especially on one side.

The real Trump Derangement Syndrome.

He didn’t have a character customisation screen before being born

ryathal should play the longer game and go fuck themself

Is that blood on the ground next to the mound of what I can only assume are dozens of bodies?

I implore you to go search “Ozturk” on YouTube. A video from the NY Post comes up. Read the comments. I cannot believe the reaction of such an un-empathetic population.