I agree. This is a paradigm shift, it won’t get erased out of use.

That doesn’t happen everywhere in the world. Not even most of the world I’d wager.

Mate, why are you insisting in a verifiably failed strategy? It has been done. It has not worked.

This is one of the cases where compromises will not work.

Why the fuck are you ignoring that? Why? Why are you pressing on “talks” with Russia? You fucking sound like trump. What is your interest? Do you think that selling their sovereignty is acceptable? Because that’s what the USA and Russia want.

Fuck off! We’re never going to agree so you might as well just leave it.

I’m not sure you’re just being stubborn or really believe that peace treaty crap. War ends one one of the sides is forced into submission and surrender.

Yet you wanna call that a peace treaty like it’s some agreement reached at any time that is not short of annihilating the other guys. At least recently. But, throughout history, many wars ended with the actual annihilation of the other side so now you know what I’m disagreeing with.

If not, what I’m disagreeing with for this case is diplomacy and negotiations. Fuck that and fuck Russia and the USA. Use the money to let Ukraine go berserk.

My point is that history shows it’s not really wise to negotiate, or go for treaties or agreements with Russia.

Whilst strategically it would be good to make the war stop it would only be a temporary and remedial solution not really solving the root cause of the problem.

So why do it?

Do you know what happened last time Ukraine had an agreement with Russia and USA?

Why would they make the same mistake?

Why are you pressing for that as it is it a valid option? Why are you ignoring what Russia and the USA did not so long ago? Are you of the opinion that trump can bring peace to Ukraine quickly?

Why are you so opposed to giving free money to Ukraine?

Ah yes, because negotiations for peace with Russia worked so well for Ukraine before…

And now the USA are tagging in so they can also get the spoils.

Bargaining chips for what? Negotiating peace? A truce? A cease fire? There’s been ample time to do that and here we are.

How its this question still going?

Why hasn’t it been done yet?

Is it me or is murican’s discourse lining up with “bringing democracy to Ukraine by force”?

What in the actual fuck??

Luigi started the work, y’all need to finish it.