It entirely depends on the couple and region, 老公 (basically husband, most commonly heard between long time girlfriends to their boyfriends) is common enough to count, but 情人 can and is also used, which is closer to ‘lover’ but is used for any type of close intimate relationship including cishet married couples.

Material analysis does tend to go contrary to liberal fantasy. Have a good life full of surprise and wonder at how the blue tie doesn’t materially change things.

The regional poverty has dropped. Drastically. Unlike the US, a rising tide lifts all boats.

Does more work need to be done? Sure. But food insecurity isn’t a thing in China. Ever. You are guaranteed income, land, food, and farming supplies if you live in a rural area. Is it a lot compared to the top of the top? No, not really. But it’s infinitely better to be poor in China than in the US. Every poor rural Chinese person is either a land holder or is in the household of a land holder. Tax free as well under specific income thresh holds.

Remember they are taking a society that 35 years ago was the poorest and most populated country on Earth and have so far raised median living standards above all of their neighbors. There is of course more to go, because most of the country has yet to be industrialized. Hence the ‘Ghost Cities’

Ah yes, the chinese propaganda of 209 countries and the UN all being in agreement.

Disclaimer, I don’t think harris would have been as bad as Trump. But this is the US.

If Harris won, do you think we’d be engaged in a war with Iran right now

Yes, Israel is America’s ally and this is Israel’s war. The choice would be between letting Israel get absolutely destroyed which would have unironically happened by now if there weren’t 3 carrier groups trying to intercept missiles and drones, or going to war with Iran.

that the Epstein files would be as blocked as they are?

Yes, as an AG she spent her time refusing to charge pedos and disproportionately arresting (and arguing against the conditional release of) minorities. She worked with a know pedophile for four fucking years and called him one of the best people she knew.

Do you think she would have signed a bunch of EOs that are illegal to enrich herself and her family?

She went fairly middle class Californian to one of the richest women on Earth by the time she ended her tenure as Senator. You tell me. Maybe they would’ve been legal like how all other presidents massively enriched themselves in office. Maybe that’d be the difference.

Do you believe that ICE would have invaded cities all over the country, illegally capturing minorities and murdering two people?

It’d be way more than two, and it would be less invasion and more silent takeover based on how Biden and Obama used ICE to terrorize cities for decades.

The main difference is it would still be comfortable for the ever shrinking middle class, and it would be quiet since liberals by and large don’t listen to unapproved news sources for information. Just like Obama’s kills of US citizens across the world, just like Biden’s record number of child arrests, many of whom are still detained in “Trump’s” ICE facilities (or just missing).

You pay over your lifetime what a US citizen might pay in a particularly bad year. Including all tax burden.

To be fair Americans don’t really know history, being the most propagandized people on the planet.

And let’s live in the alternate reality you’re talking about for a minute

We’ve been in reality for quite a bit.

Can two straight people get married in China with no intention of procreation?

It’d be really, really weird culturally and a huge risk most aren’t willing to take. Also if you’re a straight foreigner marrying a chinese national your application will almost certainly be denied if you state you’re not willing to have kids, since that’ll be seen as a fake marriage trying to gain Chinese spousal residency.

Can two gay people get married if they’re planning to adopt?

Since they can enter into a mutual guardianship and adopt yes? You people get tripped up on the word ‘Marriage’ way too much. A rephrasing would be can two gay people cohabitate, share full financial resources, get tax breaks, and adopt? Sure. Can they get ‘married’? No. The difference is entirely without substance at this point, but because Stalin was so incredibly anti-gay, we’re still suffering through the lasting ‘but that’s not the right way’ nonsense cultural war he started so you can’t call it marriage.

Can they even adopt?

Yes.

Come on man, I get being wrong, but don’t double down on it.

I live here half the year, dumbass. You are objectively the incorrect one, in anything you say about China.

Nope Guardianship is available country-wide (I can’t find an english language document that goes into more recent updates which allow property and tax breaks.) Beijing, Hong Kong, and the entire province of Taiwan all recognize marriages from outside of china though, which is where that gets confused.

Unfortunately the overall chinese public isn’t really up to voting for more explicitly stated parity of rights due to a lack of educational push in that direction, which is compounded by the general public’s lack of interest, and so on.

No, they can just legally join in partnership and have all of the same government incentives as married people… They just don’t call it marriage since marriage is for incentivizing procreation.

Given Ukraine’s arguments to join the EU, yes, bordering Russia is the west. I also never suggested you did live in the US, I simply listed four capitalist dictatorships.

I already addressed this but good try little buddy. I hope they’re giving you overtime pay.

Except it’s not. The reason the methheads do it is because they know they can still get food and they get meth instead. If they just used the food stamps for food they’d have an incredible excess. The reason people buy the half priced food is because that frees up money for the other bills imposed on them by private companies. That’s not a food crisis, there’s not a lack of food.

In this story not only is there not a lack of food, people are paying MORE MONEY in order to eat dog than other meats. Pork is cheaper than dog everywhere both are sold, which for pork is the entire country. The dog was sold to a restaurant, which brings UP THE PRICE OF FOOD. The dog wasn’t stolen to be eaten out of need, which the thief would have just done themselves.

Alternative story with the same cause and effect without the western attachment to a specific livestock as a pet: Celebrity pet Ayam Cemani Chicken stolen and sold to restaruant.

Hey, no predicting the BBC article headline for this story! That’s cheating!

Russia, being a generic capitalist dictatorship like the US, UK, or Ukraine, at least the leaders thereof, should be annihilated and its people forcibly reeducated so the civilized world can start to heal and advance.

I don’t know why your owners think people support Russia if they support China or NK, they just don’t support Ukraine. Fascist infighting will always be equally laughed at and encouraged.

But since we’re abandoning the thread entirely just so you can feel better about believing your owners propaganda without a second of critical thought, this is where this thread ends. Hope you get everything you wish on others in life.

Because it’s not relevant to this or any other discussion and we’ll never agree on anything related to North Korea if you cannot even accept easily verifiable facts that go against your owners’ narrative on China.

1. “except in some regions of the world” covers that in my opinion, and honestly I forgot that foreigners pressured the local governments in a couple of places to ban dog meat after covid. This covers less than 10% of the Chinese population, and isn’t relevant to the story, but at least this is an actual criticism this time. Congrats.

2. Except unlike your Trump example, I’ve actually provided evidence the propaganda your masters told you to believe is wrong. The ban is on pornography. Yes China had an anti-lgbt period that it’s still getting over in the public consciousness, which is a serious topic that needs actual nuance and good faith attempts at understanding to discuss, and I’m happy to go into that to educate you if you would like as it’s actually super interesting. What does not happen is the boogeyman tracking down gay people in their own homes doing gay things.

The official stance held by the central government and all city and province governments is “gay people are people, why discriminate like the west does”

The rural areas where the food is grown and subsidized by the government so they don’t even really pay for food staples and only pay for what needs to be imported into the region (note: imported, not given by the government)?

This isn’t the 1950s li’l bro. China has a agriculture first economy. There’s a reason there has been no famine in China since the great leap forward despite a complete lack of foreign food aid even during the poorest periods in modern Chinese history.

There are, of course as in all societies, criminals. Criminals steal things that will sell. I don’t suggest that the methheads selling their food stamps via buying food and selling it to strangers for half price suggest a food shortage in the US. I don’t even suggest the multiple hundreds of livestock mutilations with clearly man-made wounds that have been such an incredible staple in the American culture that they’ve inspired countless jokes and even documentaries about how ‘aliens’ are doing it are a sign of food shortage.

Feel free to engage with the conversation if you believe that any of my counter claims are wrong. Breaking community and lemmy.world global rules isn’t a smart way to do that.

Claims made:

Dog meat isn’t illegal, except in some provinces.

Being LGBT publicly isn’t illegal.

Which also includes linked to the claims about Chongqing, since it’s incredibly well known (along with Chengdu, of course.)

The only LGBT crackdowns that have happened have been porn crack downs that happened to include, not specifically target just include, LGBT content creators.

Do you care to read the things you post, or do you just like being ignorant and spreading misinformation.

No, there is no social credit score, as explained in your link specifically.

No, there is no grand big brother system watching your every move through cameras ‘docking your score’ every time you wipe your ass.

No, there’s not even a national ‘social credit’ system in place, as explained in your link specifically.

What does exist is the equivalent of a ‘universal background check’ system, as explained in your link. This means governments, yes plural because China’s system isn’t a strict hierarchy especially in this case, can check the criminality of a person or business pretty much instantly without needing to dig through details. It’s like how the US just completely destroys the lives of felons permanently regardless of if it was a gram of weed two decades ago or literally killing multiple police officers. Except it also credits positive impacts and restitution so you aren’t permanently ear marked as a bad person.

All of this is explained in your link, specifically. Which is amazing given wikipedia is usually incredibly bad at vetting information about China. That’s the thing, your website filled with propaganda sources is literally telling you you’re wrong, but you didn’t read about this at all, you heard propaganda or memes 10 years ago and just never cared to learn about it.

And this system isn’t even online or universal. Most provinces don’t have it. Most cities don’t participate in it at all. It’d be better if they did.

Compare this to the actual social credit score the US has, which is run by three private companies and can prevent you from getting an apartment, a job, or in some cases government assistance.