Count this one that never voted for Trump.

D from top to bottom of the ticket

[bows] you’re too kind, I do what I can.

I won’t totally disagree. But a lot of employees will lose their jobs and an innovative competitor would leave the market. Maybe a middle ground would be like, a hostile takeover bid that also merged them with Rivian or something. Then a rename to “eXla” just to fuck with Elon :)

In an IDEAL world, Musk will be removed as CEO for both failure to perform (he’s literally not doing his job given that he’s doing all his DOGshitE) and the harm he’s bringing to the brand. No other CEO would be allowed to get away with this.

Then, in a JUST world the stock will stabilize, start to grow again, and everyone will get back on the EV train with Tesla included. While the Muskrat watches from the sidelines like the loser he is.

CAVEAT: only if he also doesn’t still own any more of the stock than he could get owning VTSAX like the rest of us.

You know, I had a gut reaction to your post, “If it’s in the law they have to honor it!”

But then I remembered what timeline we’re in. The one where congress and the courts have abdicated themselves to the Executive Branch. The one where there is nothing to stop the Republicans in congress from making promises, putting them into the budget, Trump flatly denying it (aka Impoundment), and congress and the courts not pushing back.

It can 100% happen and we have the evidence and precedent now to prove it.

HA HA YOU FOOL!!! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! I knew the cheese was on the Nachos the whole time!

YOU’RE WRONG THAT’S NOT HOW IT WORKS!

wait?

heh heh

Good try buddy. I’m not falling for that old trick.

Something about a leopard? I think, who knows.

or obvious “lives will be lost” support ends.

It’s funny (not funny!) that you think they care about lives being lost.

The cruelty IS the point.

Breaking news hahaha

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Yeah I know and I agree with that you say. My conflict is with the FAFO part of my brain. I’m not proud of it. Knowing and admitting is half the battle.

But come one, you have to taste at least a little bit of the irony; no? ;-)

I hear ya. But Vance is ineffective with no real charm. He won’t be able to rally the rubes like Trump does. I also don’t think Vance is nearly as slimy as Trump. But that isn’t credit to Vance, it’s an indictment of Trump. HE is still worse than we can possibly imagine. Vance really did at least grow up poor and then serve in the military and THEN shit all over them; but he knows. Trump has no idea and more ego and delusions of superiority than imaginable.

I could be wrong, reasonable people can disagree. Love and respect!

One can’t find the button to push. The other pushes every single fucking button they can find.

Yeah my atheist brain is about to explode here with so many competing thoughts.

Or less if nature takes her course.

Exactly. His crowds weren’t small, they just couldn’t see him.

Hmmm perhaps I wasn’t totally clear. I have never claimed Kamala ran a great campaign. Or that her and the Dems did a great job engaging a very vocal part of the party concerned with what’s happening in Gaza or the US’s policy in Gaza.

I have however been attempting to consistently argue that 1) they had a LOT of other constituencies to court so it was never as simple as “Gaza policy bad = lost election; Gaza policy good = win election”, 2) the general election protest vote (or abstention) is going to find out here fairly soon if their protest was worth it once Trump takes office and 3) That so far, Trumps rhetoric SINCE THE ELECTION, and his appointment choices are not giving great indications that he intends to do anything to stop the dying of innocents.

But we might just find out that the most recent developments concerning a cease fire agreement preempts us all Finding Out just what Trump might do in Gaza.

Not an apples to apples comparison of primary elections and general election. Regardless that isn’t an argument against my point that an 11% undecided vote is hardly a “fairly significant public statement”. The point you’re addressing is if I said 11% hardly made a difference. Which I didn’t.

Sure I wish we had those votes, though I don’t think “the gaza protest vote” would have won the election for Kamala if it went the other way. Way too many other reasons she lost.

I also hope you don’t find yourself wishing you had those votes go to Kamala as well. Which is to say, I hope you don’t realize the leopard has eaten your face, because that would mean the incoming administration actually enacting policy that moves the needle in the direction of less violence in Gaza.

We’ll both find out the answer in the coming months if it was really worth it or not.