it’s fine, i should have included the second part in my original comment

You’re the one who pulled baking into it though? I was not required to entertain your baking argument at any point, so why are you acting as if you have the moral high ground?

The argument was simply: Cooking and Gardening are oftentimes chores that fall on women, so it’s kind of interesting to see those as attractive hobbies for men. The last part wasn’t said, but implied, and i hoped people would realize it themselves, but alas now we’re here

Of course, how could I forget! Thanks for reminding me

Hey man, great effort, but just to remind you the OG argument was: Cooking/Gardening can be a chore and a hobby

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/recipe book

Hey I translated the word as it is. If you want to suddenly change the argument from cooking vs baking to recipe books, I don’t see why you’re complaining.

Baking is a chemistry and following an exact recipe unless you’re very good at what you do, cooking is free form and putting a spin on recipes.

It’s not a cookbook either

But lawn mowing would be taking care of the garden if it had grass in it, and would be gardening by extension, that was the crux of the argument.

I sort of assumed at one point that squid is American, kind of weird that taking care of one specific type of plant is somehow not considered gardening in america

Cooking for others is fun, I agree. I love baking for others myself. Even have my own chocolate chip cookie recipe that managed to impress the local grandma club.

I also think there’s some confusion about American and European gardening, here mowing is just considered as much a part of taking care of a garden as is dealing with seedlings, etc. There’s an expectation too, to keep proper plants apart from grass on your property, so gardening is much more chore-like here. Bushes are a popular alternative to fences, and those need trimming after all

Grass is a part of gardens??? Where do you live that your garden has no lawn/grass in it??? If you own a house the area around it is called a garden, and taking care of it is called gardening, what kind of house are you used to???

Wait, you’re American aren’t you? FYI, in other countries people who own a house have more than a lawn, because only having a lawn is considered weird af. But taking care of that lawn is still considered a part of gardening, and mowing is part of that.

Also baking isn’t cooking, they are two different things. Baking is a lot more chemistry than cooking is

If you cook, you cook for a purpose, you don’t throw food away just because you’ve cooked for the sake of cooking, you eat it, or serve it to someone else to eat. In the end it’s a chore fulfilled still.

And lawn mowing is a part of gardening, just as pruning flowers and dealing with seedlings is. Sincerely, what do you think gardening is? Vegetables and fruit trees? No, as a hobby and chore it’s so much more than that. If you own a garden you want it to be presentable in at least some capacity, that requires taking care of it by planting bushes, trimming them, dealing with pests, seeding new grass if a heatwave destroyed it, etc.

You never cooked before? Or mowed the law?

I love how some of those hobbies are literally just chores but fun

Yes, but how will I become a furry in tech otherwise

My biggest gripe with vegan communities is that a lot of them have an “All or Nothing” mentality, going fully vegan is a luxury not everyone can afford, and yet I find mainly malice when trying to talk about reducing ones own reliance on meat and other animal products in online communities.

And veganism, if taken to the “no suffering of sentient beings” full extreme, forbids buying things (not just food) produced by slavery. And those things, especially electronics and clothes, are not financially viable for most to be bought without any slavery involved in any step whatsoever.

Damn, probably

No???

Source: I’m a women

Damn, I turned old when I grabbed some coloring pages off the ground to give them back to a child and got called the “nice fat lady” afterwards by the child. Double whammy