I didn’t say I think it’s art. I don’t know if it is, and I don’t really care if it is or not. I also don’t care if it’s called art. I’m just saying the mental gymnastics of trying to convince someone that something like programming as art is cringe.

I certainly don’t disagree with the points made in the video. It in fact points out something related to what I’m saying. He states he notices that people that claim something is not art are often gatekeeping something from becoming “elevated.” I’m extending the converse argument: many people trying to claim something is art are trying to elevate it to a new status.

My problem with calling programming art is not that I don’t think programming is art, but rather that I think that label is not useful in this context. Programming is something that is very much valued without that label. Thus adding the label is just an attempt to tack on unneeded elevation to the craft. In some ways the video supports my viewpoint. The debate over what is art is a bit tired. It’s worth having, but personally I don’t think it is needed in this case.

I honestly think trying to define programming as art is just an attempt to unnecessarily elevate it. Programming is utilitarian. It is meant for a specific practical purpose. It does not reveal a shared human experience the way a movie, book, or game does. I have no need to convince myself, a professional software engineer of this because I am perfectly happy accepting that what I do is useful and do not need to try to put myself in a category with artists.

All the author is saying is that people enjoy programming. I also enjoy eating. Is that an art? I even have my own “eating style” in that I like to eat food in specific order, combine two items into one bite, the way I build a bite, etc. But I’d never try to elevate it because I’m a normal person who doesn’t waste brainpower trying to make myself feel special.

It’s very popular in scientific computing

I tried the same user, and it worked for me just now. Thanks for working on this project!

Just fyi, I tried one your instance. Searched a user, clicked a result, and got an error.

Error

./app.lua:134: attempt to concatenate field 'username' (a nil value)

Traceback

stack traceback:
	./app.lua:134: in function 'handler'
	...ittygram/lua_modules/share/lua/5.1/lapis/application.lua:185: in function 'resolve'
	...ittygram/lua_modules/share/lua/5.1/lapis/application.lua:216: in function <...ittygram/lua_modules/share/lua/5.1/lapis/application.lua:214>
	[C]: in function 'xpcall'
	...ittygram/lua_modules/share/lua/5.1/lapis/application.lua:214: in function 'dispatch'
	/apps/kittygram/lua_modules/share/lua/5.1/lapis/nginx.lua:231: in function 'serve'
	content_by_lua(nginx.conf.compiled:92):2: in main chunk

Depends on the nature of the project. Is it a pure software project or is it a physical device + platform? Is anything implemented yet?

Legitimately not sure you’re joking, so I’m just going to drop this in case you aren’t: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleansing_of_the_Temple

There are a lot of food containers with air-tight seals that would rectify that situation.

I like cooking stews, but it’s gonna be a hassle to bring that to the workplace.

Stews are one of the easiest things to bring to the workplace. Their quality doesn’t degrade when eaten as leftovers, and they reheat very well in the microwave. What makes you think this would be a hassle?

Sorry, my original comment is a bit accusatory. I did not mean to say you (specifically) are the problem. I intended to say that more level-headed Christians are not what you see portrayed in media because it’s the absolute psychos that are in positions of power, so that’s what you (general) see in the media.

Persecution complex

I would never claim to be persecuted, but you specifically seem to paint with a broad brush.

Where are the outraged Christians trying to take their religion back?

There is nothing to “take back.” True followers of Christ see through these extremists in government as easily as they see through a some snake-worshipping Christian cult. Christians have always known there will be many that will pervert the truth, so they are not surprised. The problem is people like you just assume they are sitting around endorsing this behavior the media makes it seem all Chritians endorse this behavior, but the challenge is the same as always: true Christians do not have the wealth and power to control political/religious messaging around the world. It kind of goes against some key points in their theology.

It’s also the basis for a popular hardwaregeneration language, chisel. No clue why they chose it

OK, but being a victim doesn’t make you immune to this categorization. A victim of sexual abuse who rapes someone is still a rapist. Someone who was persecuted for their race who then persecutes others for their race is still a racist. Victims don’t get a “Get Out of Jail” card.

I don’t think engineers need encouragement to be cynical. More often engineers need to lighten up.

OK, but not everyone produces technical debt at the same rate and not everyone takes responsibility for what they produce, so the point is still relevant.

The IEEE standard actually does not dictate a rounding policy

The amount of CPU time compiling code is usually negligible compared to CPU time at runtime. Your comparison only really works if you are comparing against something like Rust, where less bugs are introduced due to certain guarantees by the language.

Regarding “language constructs” it really depends on what you mean. For example using numpy in python is kind of cheating because numpy is implemented in C. However using something like the algorithm libraries in Rust woulf be considered fair game since they are likely written in Rust itself.

Not sure I understand your comment on multithreading. pthreads are not very hard to use, and you have stuff like OpenMP if you want some abstraction. What about C is not ideal for multithreading?