Russia has been bombarded in the biggest Ukrainian drone attack of the war, Moscow officials have said, on the same day as crunch talks are set to be held between Kyiv and the United States.

The Russian Defence Ministry said air defences shot down 337 Ukrainian drones over 10 Russian regions overnight, a record high, as Ukraine hit back at a series of brutal recent attacks launched by Moscow.

At least one Russian civilian has been killed and several injured, with dramatic footage showing fires raging from the exploding drones including in high rise residential buildings near Moscow.

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    10 months ago

    If Ukraine actually did this, it’s a beautiful find out stage after Russia has been fucking around for far too long. But the skeptic in me says this is actually a false flag staged to manufacture reasons to deny peace talks and continue to escalate.

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      10 months ago

      Ukraine attacking civilians is old news. They love crashing their drones into whatever house is nearby when they fail to find a military target.

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        10 months ago

        Thankfully Russia has taken great care to avoid civilian deaths, which is why we thankfully never have to include it as context.

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      10 months ago

      Russia doesn’t need a pretext, they’re winning the war. Meanwhile, the fact that you think terrorist attacks against civilians is a beautiful things says all we need to know about you as a person.

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        10 months ago

        Theh government started a war with another country. They are at war and people die in war. Want civilians to not die? End the war and go home.

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            10 months ago

            their proxy war

            Meanwhile Russia did the war-war. I think you should do two posts about war-war accountability for every one post about proxy-war accountability.

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              10 months ago

              Meanwhile, you should spend a bit of time to understand the subject you’re attempting to opine on so as not to publicly embarrass yourself.

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                Oh god, not the liberals.

                Tankies and their new word for the boogeyman are something else.

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                  10 months ago

                  “liberals aren’t real, they’re just a boogyman” is certainly a take.

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                    Literally every other comment on ml and lemmygrad is some bs about liberals. You guys throw it around more than the redneck trump voters.

                    Edit: sick misread of my comment, btw. Idk how you came up with that interpretation of what I said, but it certainly fits your false narrative lol

                • davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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                  “Liberal” has a clearly-defined meaning, and 95+% of people of the imperial core are liberals, because it is the hegemonic ideology of the imperial core.

                  The first sentence from :

                  Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, the right to private property and equality before the law.

                  From the first paragraph of [1]:

                  Private property is foundational to capitalism, an economic system based on the private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit.

                  That’s what liberals believe. Liberals are those who support capitalism.

                  Meanwhile, “tankie” is just a floating signifier. It’s just a pejorative and a thought-terminating cliché to dismiss people to the left of liberalism.


                  1. Not to be confused with personal property. ↩︎

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                    10 months ago

                    I used tankie to describe .ml and lemmygrad users, perjoratively, as you say. The same users who use liberal to mean, “anyone I don’t like”.

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      People who don’t understand what Ukraine is doing are priviledged and their culture has never had to fight an oppressor or they won long ago and their people simply forgot what it was like to fight to survive.

      My people were invaded, genocided and attempts were made to assimilate us after genocide attempts failed. Our patriots fought back for many years, but ultimately lost. Know what the oppressors called our patriots? The old way of calling your victim a “terrorist” for fighting back: A traitor to the crown (you can guess which nation did this to us now). Our patriots were hung in mass and anyone that believed in the cause and rebelled were also hung. Our patriots had killed many soldiers and civilians in the attempts to free our people from the invading nation. It was unavoidable and a necessary sacrifice to make for the cause in their minds. Today, we have a holiday in their honour, as our people ended up surviving the genocide and assimilation attempts and we didn’t forget their efforts to free us.

      Death is part of war and a victim of oppression is allowed to defend themselves from being genocided. The struggles to survive don’t just happen within people’s rose tinted glasses. I’m tired of the priviledged trying to control the narrative of what is “right” or “wrong” for a nation to do in response to being genocided.