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3·7 hours agoRemember when SPAAAAACE FOOOORCE, used Star Trek as their logo.
Those were the good ol’ days.
El-Sayed’s comment was a response to that. His claim is that if Vance’s Papaw would have seen a Muslim candidate in the bigoted terms that Vance articulated—as inherently posing a threat to “working people”—then he also might have seen Usha Vance in a similar way.
As a immigrant that grew up in the same Midwest environment, there’s no might.
And yet here we are with you supporting people who vote with Republicans and slow marching toward fascism.
Do better.
Sad that this is all you have with this comment. Your other comment was much more insightful.
Yeah, those voters who were in the Uncommitted and Abandon Harris movement.
https://www.leftvoice.org/michigan-democratic-primary-referendum-on-uncommitted/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/aug/23/democrats-abdul-el-sayed-progressives
Yeah there were consequences of not voting but that little movement of conscientious objectors did end up fueling progressives and the rest of the voting populace to think about why they abstained and has had an effect on politics and for how little it was seems to have had a outsized impact on things moving forward. No one is saying there weren’t consequences to that decision, their whining about the consequences after were annoying as hell, but their impact was and is being felt in today’s politics.
And there we go. Just like a Republican to complain about the lack of discourse and then do fuck all to address a damn thing. Got it Charlie.
I would appreciate it if you didn’t vote for fascists that, if followed continues to accelerate my nation’s decent into fascism. Thanks.
Vote better in the primaries next time.
You’re such a sanctimonious Republican that really can’t hold shit to a debate.
You say I act like my choice isn’t any different from voting for a Republican and yet, look at your self man, you’re supporting people who literally voted for fascism in this vote, people who voted to save Mike Johnson, people who voted to not impeach Trump and that’s just recently, plenty more where that came from with just people like Fetterman and Manchin that your party keeps/kept defending to keep in the party. You guys honestly are just as bad with your Republican counter parts with how much “Rah, rah! My sports team”.
Also, you realize that Primaries are different from the general. You realize that right? And it’s because of do nothing Republicans in the Democratic party like you that keep giving us this fucked up choice two shit fascist sandwiches every fucking time.
Yeah, it took three fucking decades to even start getting over your moderate bullshit and that’s why we’re finally seeing people like AOC, Omar, Pressley, Talib, Bush, Mandami, El-Sayed, Nixon winning their primaries and I’m proud to have donated, voted for, and volunteered for progressives in my twenty years of voting for your shit neo-liberal candidates in the general during that time. I’m actually helping to get real change enacted unlike you and your Republican ilk. As for general elections, I’m done with that bullshit now, writing is on the wall that Republicans can GTFO and if I have to go acclerationist, so be it, I can at least be here living with myself knowing that I didn’t slow walk fascist bullishit like this into office and live with the consequences.
I’ll continue to donate, vote, and volunteer for progressives and continue to never donate another dime to Democrats until the day I die to get rid of do nothing moderates like you who enable fascism in the name of bipartisanship and keeping your corporate donors happy because I know what people like you stand for and that’s doing fuck all to help the working American people and regurgitating tired old noe-liberal, Republican policies that don’t do shit other than make Republicans happy.
Enough playing chess with pigeons for today. Have a good one my Republican colleague.
You keep fucking that chicken then. Keep on voting in the fascist-lite that keeps voting with them to chip away democracy while you cry impotently on social media about how could fascism take hold.
I’d rather join a organized protest vote like those in Dearborn and affect change. But again, keep doing the same thing and expect things to change, I’m sure it’ll happen.
No they have not.
Sanders is an outlier as is King. Most others that have been in the independent banner like Murkowski or Lieberman were part of the two parties before.
Feel free to provide citations showing plenty of independents winning. I am just like you, waiting for the people to get fed up with the first past the shitty post but I don’t have faith in Idiot America, both parties included.
141·3 days agoJesus, just stop typing.
You’re been wrong at every turn because you’re the shining example the embodiment of the dunning-kruger effect. So confidently incorrect even with literal research at your fingertips that you refuse to use.
It’s embarrassing.
Literally five seconds to find. Now count how many places are over 15.
And yet you’re the one who keeps voting for fascism giving Republicans exactly what they wanted. Great job!
Rich people have no allegiance to party, just who can get me what I want.
I hear you man and unfortunately 3rd parties will never be viable with these kinds of Democrats around who won’t support ranked choice or another system of voting.
If you have a couple of thousand like minded individuals, I’d say do a coordinated priest vote with a specific message of your refusing to vote for people who can’t stand up to the GOP even for your 1st amendment rights like those in the Dearborn Abandon movement did.
Otherwise you’d just have to decide if it’s worth it to you to hold your nose and slow walk the decent into fascism or go acceleration and live with the consequences of a quicker decent while continuing to fight for better candidates via progressives in the primaries. No real good options otherwise.
That’s where you’d have to have a coordinated protest vote to be able to focus the message of why you’re doing the protest vote, otherwise it’s an exercise in futility and just the Republican won.
As much as I disagree with the Michigan Abandon voters at the time, still do to a degree mostly due to the whining afterwards, that focused, poignant, abstained really had a outside impact even when overall it did nothing to the overall state election. I think it’s something that really did push progressives forward in this latest primary and why that 30 million fell flat.
I’ll keep looking forward to the next batch of primaries and how progressives and the DSA move forward.
And you’re the useful idiot that Republican-lite love. Vote blue no matter who, never think about changing the status quo, never hold them accountable for their actions. Just keep on swimming. They love their moderate do nothing useful idiots.
And abstaining from voting as a form of protest is a time honored tradition. But sure go ahead and provide proof that Republicans are pushing abstaining from voting. They’re pushing propaganda about the security of voting to enact laws curtailing the right to vote, plenty of evidence for that. Honestly, you sound like conspiracy theory Republican with your bought and paid message speil, going to blame it on George Soros next?
As far as you state abstaining/protest voting does nothing, I believe it does depending on how it’s done. We’ve certainly seen how it has changed politics with Ross Perot and how it lead to MAGA. We’ve seen how it affected things recently with Dearborn abandon voters and how their stance has accelerated saying fuck AIPAC.
No thanks to your moderate paradise of slow walking fascism, I’ll consider acceleration and live with the consequences sooner rather than later.
The truly moronic response is the dumbass Republican-lite members who continue to vote the same repeat fascist enabling assholes in the Democratic primary, forcing the rest of us to choose between two fucking fascist every god damn November.
No thanks, tired of your Republican-lite bullshit than keeps slow walking us right into fascism. I’d much rather see a good coordinated protest vote like those Abandon voters in Michigan.
Yeah, he’s shit but I mean, Texas. Not saying he gets a pass but, Texas.
At this point, I wouldn’t put it past him to convert and have a sister wife.