Sounds like you’re claiming politicians dont accept bribes. Which is verifiably false.

They can pay before or after, if the politician doesn’t follow through on their end wealthy people have other ways to make them pay.

Or maybe the word gets out that a particular politician isn’t delivering. With the resources that the wealthy have they can run a smear campaign and ruin that politicians career.

Not to mention Clarence Thomas was bribed by letting him use a super yacht. If he didn’t follow through on his end the owner could just not let him use the yacht anymore.

There are many ways to skin this cat.

Money is used to change perceptions before the election. That is why so much is spent on campaigns. It is also used for bribery. Elon will use his money in any way possible to get what he wants.

I didn’t say it “has to be that way”.

Seattle is in a blue state. Like New York, it doesn’t mirror the voting of the rest of the country.

We need to win in purple/red states to change our trajectory.

Progressives lost to AIPAC funded candidates.

New York doesn’t mirror the voting of the rest of the country.

Money still wins elections. Don’t be complacent.

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Left and right is a spectrum of ideology.

In the US that spectrum doesn’t exist to the left of democrats. It ends at democrats.

Those cops, zionists and republicans are also a part of our democracy and they have a vote. Leftists consistently lose elections for not considering this.

Democrats tried to be less moderate in 2016 and 2024 and lost because of it. Which is expected because leftists can’t win elections.

The problem with that approach is you do all the work for the GOP propaganda machine every time you argue against a democratic candidate.

So by the time your revolution fails, your campaign gets weaponized by the GOP. Everything negative you had to say about the democrat candidate is now being said by the GOP. And it’s super effective at convincing some democratic voters to stay home because it’s the same talking points used by their own party.

Instead of trying to discourage voters from choosing democrats, leftists should just say why voters should chose the leftist and accept the results when voters choose the moderate option.

India Walton, Nina Turner?

Won the primary. Lost the election.

Not even a little

Or elections

Leftists aren’t winning elections.

Dems tried to cater to leftists in 2016 and 2024 and lost as a result.

The majority of Americans don’t want leftist politicians as we can see with election results.

Leftists are forcing Dems to the right by giving the elections to Trump

They’ve literally won the majority of elections since the 90s by appealing to moderates. They lost in 2024 because Russia had a war at stake and billionaires didn’t want to get taxed. Add in inflation from the pandemic and you have a tough campaign to win.

The argument that democrats can’t win without the left is not based on reality.

Dems tried to appeal to leftist and they screeched “genicide Joe” until Trump won.

Meanwhile republicans won because voters to the right of leftist know the importance of not shitting on the candidate they want to win.

Splitting the only opposition to the Republican Party during a coup is a guaranteed benefit to the GOP.

That’s what you are arguing for.

You want me to apologize for pointing out the cause and effect of what you’re asking for?

And splitting into a 3rd party would divide all opposition to republicans during a coup. Sounds like something they want.

Starting a 3rd party has always been a bad faith argument meant to weaken votes against republicans.

How would making it easier for fascism to win, help stop fascism? Your logic doesn’t make any sense.

Sounds like you’re warming up for the next election when you’ll be trying to convince people not to vote or vote 3rd party.

Dems have won the majority of elections since the 90s. Biden/Harris lost because of inflation.

Republicans lost by waaay more in 2020. If they followed your mentality they would’ve lost in 2024. Instead they doubled down and won.

Na. That was fake leftists screeching “genicide Joe” and claiming both sides are the same.